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Wednesday, August 4, 2010

Discovering my God

By
Gudu Kassa ze Athenian
gudukassa2@yahoo.com

I met with a Pastor who is known for his love of exhaustive discussions and debates with unbelievers. I used that opportunity to settle the questions that bugs me for long time. I started with a worldly but logical question. Here is our discussion in brief


Q. Does God evolve?

Ans. Don’t be Silly! God is God

Q. How about gods. Do they evolve?

Ans. gods ….ye..no…er

Q. Pastor, I don’t mean to challenge you?

Ans. It’s okay! It’s okay to ask. I am here to answer your questions. The reason why I took some time is to give you simple answer for your difficult question.

Q. So, do gods evolve?

Ans. For evolution to exist there should be ‘Selection Pressure’ that forces the living entities to fight or compete for survival. It is when the only the fittest could survive that we can say there is evolution. But to apply this concept to gods is difficult. First it might be disrespectful for their subjects. Second it we don’t have enough information on their life style Third we don’t have any evidences to show that they living under an environment that puts selection pressure on them. So, the answer for your question is simply we don’t have enough information.

Q. So it is not Yes or No

Ans. You are right

Q. What if the environment they are living in is our mind.

Ans. What do you mean.

Q. For example Muslims believe that God is Allah. Christians believe God is God (Trinity)…all religions believe in some kind of God….

Ans. But there is one God.

Q. Yes for each of them there is one God.

Ans. No, there is only one God, and that is…

Q. Pastor, is Islams God that one God?

Ans. No, it is not, but keep this for yourself.

Q. Ok, so their God is god for you

Ans. Yes.

Q. They also say the same. I asked Hajii Hussien the same Question. He also believed that his God is the only true God. He also believed that other’s God is gods.

Ans. I don’t care about him. What are you trying to say?

Q. What I am trying to say is the status, existence and place of our God and Gods depends on how each of us thought to believe. For a Muslim who rose under Quran teaching, God is Allah and Christians’ and others God is god and nonexistent. Muslims’ God also lives in our mind as god. So we don’t care about it. Don’t you see how god and Gods live in our mind?

Ans. Yes my God can be god for others, but every knows the truth when Jesus comes

Q. Some say that gods can also be borne and die. What do you say?

Ans. Not our God

Q. eh…the same God can be god in a different mindset. Let’s take an example of a convert. Let’s say a Muslim is converted to Christian. Do you think he continue to believe that God is Allah.

Ans. No, he accepts Lord Jesus and find the truth. He doesn’t look back once he is saved.

Q. So, Allah will be changed to ‘god’ in his mind.

Ans. Yes

Q. Can’t we say Allah dies in the mind of a convert?

Ans. Er….not actually. It is not the Allah that dies but the imagination of the convert

Q. What do you mean?

Ans. gods are the product of misinformation and imagination. So when a convert knows the truth, he will realize that his ‘God’ was just imagination.

Q. So misinformation will kill imaginary gods

Ans. yes, I don’t know if you can it killing. It was not alive before.

Q. So can we say ‘’gods are imaginations that live in unenlightened or misinformed mind.

Ans. yes

Q. I can see the possibility of Evolution in gods.

Ans. How, I didn’t say that

Q. From our discussion we know where ‘gods’ live, it is in our mind. We also know their preferred environment to survive i.e uninformed mind. We also learned that when we learn and get informed, we are adding pressure to the God in our mind. Among the thousands of gods we know living in peoples mind, only few survive the test of time be considered God.

Ans. Y..e..s. We can say that but the only survivor will be our God.

Q. That is right for you Pastor!

Ans. But this is not evolution but enlightenment

Q. Yes we can call it that way. As long as we refer the same thing, naming is not a problem

Ans. My son, did you become an Atheist

At this moment the Pastor begin to Question the Questioner.

Ans.No, Atheism is a belief itself. It is a belief of not believing any god. In my opinion both theism and Atheism are both extreme and irrational beliefs. The problem with beliefs is they all are a product of human mind which are subject to error and evolution.

Q. So, what is your belief? You can’t live without believing something. To belief is part of who we are. We humans must belief in something.

Ans. Yes, to believe in something is our nature.

Q. So what do you believe?

Ans. I don’t have a name for my belief.

Q. Tell me, I can give you a name.

Ans. I believe in the existence of God. But I don’t accept and believe in the specifications and definitions of that are given by different religions. I believe religion and all known gods are the product of human mind and are subject to change and evolution. They evolve as we evolve. Ancient Greeks had a lot of gods but all vanish with the Greek civilization. The survival of our god is completely dependent upon our understanding and enlightenment [as you said before].

Q. So you don’t believe in our God

Ans. Yes, but I respect your belief

Q. But you believe in existence of God

Ans. Yes. But I don’t know any more. I don’t know if he is one or hundred. I don’t know if he is male or female. I don’t know if he is in heaven or in space. I know nothing but by the possibility of a great cause for the existence of the world I see. I call that possibility of our cause ‘God’. But I don’t know him, and I also don’t know if he knows me also.

Q. So, you believe in unknown God.

Ans. Yes. I think he enjoys being unknown.

Q. I know the name of your belief

Ans. I can’t wait to know it.

Q. it is called Agnosticism. You have some friends also. Do you want to know them?

Ans. Yes Pastor

Q. Read this verses of the bible  Act 17:-23

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